- They work for you
- Reform in the UK & New Zealand?
- Power2010 Pledge - Party Representation or People Representation?
- What mandate do you have if you are elected on a party list?
- STV News 09/07 now published
- Tony Benn explains advantages of STV to his grandchildren
- The Open Rights Group choose STV
- Not the answer!
- What is all the fuss about expenses? Are MPs really being treated fairly?
- Worth considering!
editor's blog
Reform in the UK & New Zealand?
Submitted by editor on Thu, 25/02/2010 - 12:26See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/7299897/New-Zealand-prepares-for-electi... for a good article in today's Daily Telegraph with quotes from STV Action, the Electoral Reform Society and others.
Power2010 Pledge - Party Representation or People Representation?
Submitted by editor on Wed, 24/02/2010 - 19:39STV Action welcomes the news from Power2010 that proportional representation (PR) was by far the most popular of all the reforms proposed to fix our broken democracy (with over 10,000 votes), and will form one of the five pledges it wants MPs to support.
However, PR in itself is not “the best medicine for a sick democracy”. There are many types of PR and most would not increase voters’ power over politicians; in fact, most would increase the power of political parties. They provide simply Party Representation. In particular, most would not empower voters to hold dishonest or lazy politicians (and we accept that most are neither) to account.
STV in multi-member constituencies is the exception and the only system that allows voters the chance to vote against an MP they wish to reject, without voting against their party. It gives voters a real choice of candidates within and across parties and that puts them in charge. It lets voters choose not just a party but also an MP of that party who is most likely to represent the voters’ views on other matters, e.g. gender, education or Europe. It empowers them – not the parties – to decide whether an MP has been good enough to be re-elected or bad enough to be dismissed. It results in a Parliament far more representative of all voters’ views, not just their party allegiances; STV-PR is People Representation.
Without that reform, it is possible that Parliament would not necessarily consider the other pledges, let alone agree them, so it must be mandatory in Power’s pledge.
Electoral reform is topical at the moment with the Government’s proposed referendum on changing the voting system to the Alternative Vote (AV). AV uses preference voting, which is the key element of STV, but only in existing single member constituencies. That is a very small, but welcome, step. X voting is inefficient by wasting votes and distorts results by encouraging tactical voting. However, because AV does not provide multi-member constituencies, it does not give voters the wider choice of candidates that full STV does and it is, therefore, not a PR system. Nevertheless, at least it is a step in the right direction.
STV to fight corruption
Submitted by editor on Mon, 07/09/2009 - 20:10STV would help voters to reward good MPs and punish bad ones. It would let them sack corrupt MPs without voting against their own party. Please sign the petition to the Prime Minister.
Not the answer!
Submitted by editor on Tue, 20/10/2009 - 16:21All-women short lists would be A solution, but not THE solution, to the shortage of women in Parliament.
Although Parliament would look more representative of the nation, it could be less representative in fact because constituency parties would have a restricted choice of candidates. Moreover, voters would have no more choice than they do now. Voters have no real choice in most seats because they are safe. At present, one person (usually a man) is foisted on them however they vote. Under David Cameron's proposal today, they would still have one person foisted on them but it might be a woman.
STV would let voters chose everywhere from which parties and which sex they wanted their MPs to come.
What is all the fuss about expenses? Are MPs really being treated fairly?
Submitted by editor on Fri, 16/10/2009 - 10:13On the one hand, MPs should not get away with claiming excessive expenses from us, the taxpayers, even if the claims are within the rules. Don’t forget MPs set their own rules. On the other hand, it is unfair if Sir Thomas Legg has simply moved the goalposts retrospectively and catches out those MPs whose claims had been agreed under past rules just because he personally thinks their claims are excessive.
It also seems unfair on MPs if their Parties unilaterally deselect them without first giving their voters a chance to decide whether their claims were excessive or, even if they were, whether the excessive claims were outweighed by the MPs’ good performance locally. If they were in most respects good MPs, Party deselection may also be unfair on their constituents because that would deny voters the opportunity of re-electing them. But what is most unfair is for voters in safe seats to have disgraced MPs foisted upon them merely because their Parties want to stay loyal and keep them.
If MPs have not committed fraud and have kept within the rules, it is only fair that they should be judged, not by their Party or Sir Thomas, but by their voters.
The problem is that this is not feasible under the present voting system. Voters cannot vote against sitting MPs without also voting against their Parties and loyal Party supporters will be reluctant to do that. In safe seats, the leading Party’s candidates will nearly always win even if they have behaved badly. In marginal seats, the sitting MPs will probably lose if there is a swing against their Parties, even if they have performed and behaved well. That is not fair on either the MPs or the voters concerned!
There can be similar problems with most voting systems, but STV uniquely empowers voters to differentiate between good and bad MPs of the same Party. It would let voters sack the bad MPs without having to vote against their own Parties. It would also protect good MPs from being treated unfairly by their Parties without reference to voters.
Let us give STV a try; it will be fair to voters and those MPs who perform well.
Worth considering!
Submitted by editor on Mon, 12/10/2009 - 22:28What a squeak after the loud roar of the Labour Party’s manifesto in 1997 to hold a referendum on electoral reform! The media releases about Gordon Brown’s manifesto pledge in his speech on 29 September for a referendum on the Alternative Vote (AV) if Labour wins the next General Election say it all (see Vote For A Change below). Definitely not PR – for Parties or, as we prefer, for People - but perhaps a step in the right direction. After all, there are two basic principles in STV, the first being preferential voting on which AV is based, and the second, multi-member seats without which there cannot be PR of any kind.
Nevertheless real progress of a kind there has been, albeit not promising much at the moment. This is the first time in recent memory that a Prime Minister has declared that First Past The Post has deficiencies and that the voting system might have to be changed.
Some cynics, though, have even suggested that the split into two at the fringe meeting was exactly what Brown intended - to kill off within Labour's post-reform ranks any chance of the kind of real change the country needs: a split between the pragmatists (who think a referendum on AV might begin a process that would lead to PR), and the true believers (who reckon it would kill the chances of meaningful reform for a generation).
We fervently believe that STV is the best voting system for all public elections - and in many other elections too. Even so, if it is not possible to persuade Parliament to move from single member constituencies to multi-member ones, then AV is a better system that FPTP as it can more easily be converted to STV later than any of the other systems being proposed.
As Which? would say, “not our Best Buy, but worth considering”!
If you would like to know more about AV, I recommend you to visit http://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/article.php?id=55 for the Electoral Reform Society’s explanation.
If Brown is really serious about reform (unlike Blair in 1997), he will introduce legislation before the general election for a referendum and challenge the Opposition to repeal it if they win the election.
Vote For A Change Media release:
“Gordon Brown today said that we faced the biggest choices of a generation. With his manifesto pledge of a referendum on the Alternative Vote he’s offered one of the smallest.
After all we’ve seen of the Westminster Gravy train what our politics required was a giant leap. But what Brown said today isn’t even a small step. This is just another empty promise to take that step. Labour promised a referendum in 1997, they didn’t deliver. There is little reason to view this as anything more than another worthless manifesto commitment from a party that may be heading for defeat anyway. Sunshine, lollypops and rainbows may as well be in that manifesto. It amounts to the same thing. A lack of action, and a lack of nerve from a Prime Minister unwilling to embrace real reform.
We are pleased to have won this commitment from the Prime Minister. But if you are committed to the principle of a referendum on the system then you should be principled enough to deliver it when it’s with in your power to do so.
People do well to judge politicians on their actions not their words. Today Brown's speech demonstrated he’s not serious about reform. He has time between now and the Queen’s Speech to build up from amounts to a promise to do nothing.”
Let the voters really decide!
Submitted by editor on Wed, 30/09/2009 - 22:17In response to The Sun newspaper’s declared support for the Conservatives, the Prime Minister said the views of voters, rather than newspapers, counted at the ballot box. The BBC reported that he said, “the British people will decide the election.” Would were that true, Gordon!
Under our crazy, undemocratic and inefficient voting system, the present Government was supported by only 35% of voters at the last general election while 65% voted against it. The last Conservative Government was elected by only 42% while 58% voted against it.
Let the voters really decide!
Why not reform?
Submitted by editor on Mon, 28/09/2009 - 17:13"if the Tories got 36%, the Lib Dems 27%, and Labour 17%, the Tories would have a handsome majority, but Labour would STILL have more seats than the Libs - 132 over 120. This is why Labour will never give the Libs electoral reform. ..."
But it is also why the nation needs electoral reform and why all TRUE democrats must demand it regardless of party.
Tory MP supports reform
Submitted by editor on Thu, 10/09/2009 - 12:44“With 7 out of 10 MPs from “safe seats”, the Commons today is monumentally useless as a legislature capable of reining in the executive.”
“If every member of the Commons faced a genuinely competitive election to remain at Westminster, we would have a legislature with real verve, capable of independent-minded scrutiny of government.”
“Multi-member seats would retain the constituency link – and produce clear working majorities, not endless coalitions. It’d ensure more choice when deciding who gets to be your next MP. And more competition, not just when opening fetes and holding advice surgeries, but when vying to champion local opinion.”
These quotations are all from an excellent article by Douglas Carswell, the Conservative MP for Harwich and Clacton. I urge you to visit www.talkcarswell.com/show.aspx?id=968 and read the full article.
UKIP challenges Speaker's neutrality
Submitted by editor on Mon, 07/09/2009 - 21:20Only STV can solve this conundrum.
UKIP’s recent announcement that its Leader, Nigel Farage MEP, will challenge Speaker John Bercow in his Buckingham constituency at the next general election raises an interesting constitutional conundrum, which is unanswerable with First Past The Post elections.
On the one hand, the tradition of not opposing Mr Speaker is a valuable convention to protect his neutrality. On the other hand, the tradition virtually disenfranchises his constituents; they do not have a choice of candidates at elections and their MP cannot vote in their interests or ask questions in the House for them.
STV would solve the problem. All parties could put up candidates for the five or so seats in the multi-member constituency. To protect the Speaker’s neutrality and help his re-election, they could recommend voters to vote for the Speaker as their first choice. They could then further their own campaigns and give voters a genuine choice by asking voters to vote for the party as 2nd and 3rd choice etc. After the election, the voters would not be disenfranchised because, In addition to the Speaker, they would have about four other MPs to represent them.